Monday, January 09, 2006

What is it that attracts some people to embark on a Spiritual endeavor while others show little or no interest whatsoever?

People are on different levels, different 'rungs of the ladder', as Mr. Rose used to say. Some are driven by circumstances, miserable or otherwise, to search for release, which at first may be a drive for psychological healing. Others, fewer in number, are born with or develop a curiosity about themselves, their purpose, origin, and destiny, and thus they enter a Spiritual search, in hopes of finding real answers to those questions.

4 comments:

PyramidZen Admin said...

For the time being this blog is the best thing going as there are no known live meetings that I know of. I run a small group that meets from time to time in Lexington, KY so if you are in this area there is always a possibility.

PyramidZen Admin said...

In response to the question on happiness in regards to the big answer. Happiness can become an obsession as can any mood or state of mind. Happiness and peace of mind are relative states, as is misery. It is also too easy to get caught up in wishful thinking which is a trap. One cannot postulate what is to be found at the end of the Path. All one can do is back away from that which is untrue and that means backing away from postulating what one will find. Ask yourself what is happiness? What is misery? etc... Looking at what you come up with honestly without painting a picture of what you want to find is a step in that direction.

PyramidZen Admin said...

In response to Goose I would like to point out a few keys we should avoid as mentioned in THE ALBIGEN PAPERS of Richard Rose in the chapter ON GURUS AND UNIQUE SYSTEMS. "A. Does it lessen your fear or raise your hopes by means of concept-building? B. Does it hint of sensual license? C. Is it cheaper to subscribe to, or to follow? Is it venal, or more expensive and are you deluded into thinking that it, being select and consequently, more expensive, is only for financially successful people (perfected men, meaning the select)? D. Does it have a power structure that may bring you power someday? E. Does it appeal to any other vanity? F. Did you join it because you were too tired to go on looking?"

I am not saying all these points apply here, but I see where some of them may. I can see how some of these points you speak of where there is nothing to be done could apply to one who has already become Enlightened, but it seems dangerous advise for a genuine seeker who has yet to Become. What is the foundation that led you to the realizations you speak of? Unless one has moved beyond all desire and attachment what you say is not possible. What do you mean when you say "excited with absolutely nothing"? How is it possible to be excited in that state? The same goes with doing as you please. What does that mean? It sounds like total license to escape any accountability at all. I am not trying to argue here. I just want to confront these statements for the sake of true understanding. Did you come about this as a result of your own inward looking? or was it through someone else?

THE ADMIRAL said...

The best way to be unhappy is to spend all of one's time searching for or thinking about happiness. In order to view happiness as a goal to be obtained, one must view themselves as unhappy.